This week we look at the central intellectual debate of the 14th century, did Jesus own property? If yes, then it was right and proper that the church owned land, privileges, entire counties and duchies, yes that the pope was not just the spiritual but also the secular ruler of all of Christianity. And if not, then the pope as a successor to the apostles should rescind all worldly possessions and all political power. The follow-on question from there was even more hair raising: if indeed power does not come from the grace of god as determined by the Holy church, then where does it come from. One thinker, Marsilius of Padua goes as far as  stating the obvious, power comes from election by the people…This is what pope John XXII, Michael of Cesena, William of Ockham and the cast of Umberto Eco’s the Name of  the Rose discuss. But there was also a politician, Ludwig IV, elected emperor who took these ideas – and put them into actions….let’s find out just how radical this ruler they call “the Bavarian” really was.The music for the show is Flute Sonata in E-flat major, H.545 by Carl Phillip Emmanuel Bach (or some claim it as BWV 1031 Johann Sebastian Bach) performed and arranged by <a href="https://www.windrep.org/Michel_Rondeau" target="_blank">Michel Rondeau</a> under <a href="https://imslp.org/wiki/Flute_Sonata_in_E-flat_major%2C_H.545_%28Bach%2C_Carl_Philipp_Emanuel%29" target="_blank">Common Creative Licence 3.0</a>.As always:Homepage with maps, photos, transcripts and blog: <a href="https://historyofthegermans.com/" target="_blank">www.historyofthegermans.com</a>Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/HOTGPod/" target="_blank">@HOTGPod </a>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/germanshistory?lang=en" target="_blank">@germanshistory</a>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/history_of_the_germans/?hl=en-gb" target="_blank">history_of_the_germans</a>Reddit: u/historyofthegermansPatreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/Historyofthegermans" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/Historyofthegermans</a>To make it easier for you to share the podcast, I have created separate playlists for some of the seasons that are set up as individual podcasts. they have the exact same episodes as in the History of the Germans, but they may be a helpful device for those who want to concentrate on only one season. So far I have:<a href="https://podfollow.com/1737878874" target="_blank">The Ottonians</a> <a href="https://podfollow.com/1743543524" target="_blank">Salian Emperors and Investiture Controversy</a><a href="https://podfollow.com/1743545182" target="_blank">Fredrick Barbarossa and Early Hohenstaufen</a><a href="https://podfollow.com/1743549177" target="_blank">Frederick II Stupor Mundi</a><a href="https://podfollow.com/1743550597" target="_blank">Saxony and Eastward Expansion</a><a href="https://podfollow.com/the-hanseatic-league" target="_blank">The Hanseatic League</a><a href="https://podfollow.com/1719261540" target="_blank">The Teutonic Knights</a><a href="https://podfollow.com/1733632792" target="_blank">The Holy Roman Empire 1250-1356</a>

Ep. 151 – The Kurverein zu Rhens – featuring William of Ockham