In this episode, Danny, Sam Sethi, and Garry Aylott discuss the current state of podcasting apps and the recent closures of several apps. They explore the challenges faced by podcasting apps in terms of monetization and discoverability, and question whether this means some podcast apps have a future. The conversation also touches on the need for apps to offer more features and interactivity to both listeners and creators, and the potential for larger apps to tap into their existing platforms and open up APIs to smaller apps, creating a more diverse and innovative ecosystem.Takeaways<ul><li>Podcasting apps face challenges in terms of monetization and discoverability.</li><li>Apps need to offer more features and interactivity to attract and retain listeners and creators.</li><li>Larger apps could tap into their existing platforms and open up APIs to smaller apps to create a more diverse and innovative ecosystem.</li><li>Education and communication are key to bridging the gap between the podcasting community and the mainstream audience. Listen to your audience and be selective about which features to use in your podcasting app.</li><li>App closures and consolidations are likely to occur in the future.</li><li>Support your favorite podcasting apps to help them stay in the game.</li></ul> Links to interesting things from this episode<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@AmazingSpiderTalk">Amazing Spider-Talk</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/TomBuck">Tom Buck - YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasting20.substack.com/">Podcasting 2.0 | Dave Jones</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gjmartin/">Guy Martin | LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://podcastbusinessjournal.com/data/podcast-apps/">Share of downloads by podcast apps</a></li><li><a href="https://backlinko.com/podcast-stats#popular-podcast-platforms">13 Podcast Statistics You Need To Know For 2024</a></li><li><a href="https://podnews.net/article/podcast-app-recommendations">Our recommendations for a new podcast app to replace Google Podcasts and Stitcher</a></li><li><a href="https://www.emarketer.com/insights/the-podcast-industry-report-statistics/">Podcast Industry in 2024: Top Platforms, Audience Stats, &amp; Ad Trends</a></li><li><a href="https://www.decipherzone.com/blog-detail/podcast-app-development">Podcast App Development - Features, Cost, and Steps</a></li><li><a href="https://radiopublic.com/farewell-from-radiopublic-69MjRZ/s1!c639f">RadioPublic is Shutting Down</a></li></ul> In &amp; Around Podcasting is a podcast industry podcast brought to you by Mark Asquith and Danny Brown.If you're an independent creator who would like to co-host with us, please let us know via Twitter (https://twitter.com/inaroundpodcast) and we'll get you booked!Please tell your friends that the show is available on Spotify (https://inandaroundpodcasting.com/spotify), (https://inandaroundpodcasting.com/apple) and YouTube (https://inandaroundpodcasting.com/youtube), plus wherever else they may listen to their podcasts.The podcast is also available at https://www.inandaroundpodcasting.com.Mentioned in this episode:The #1 Place for Podcasting News - Podnews NewsletterPodnews is our #1 place for podcasting news and is trusted by tens-of-thousands of indie creators, industry experts and curious creators every single day.

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