Is Canada a climate leader or a fossil-fueled dinosaur? And what will the recent ascension of Mark Carney as Prime Minister mean for the country’s climate agenda - both domestically and on the world stage? In the second of our country deep-dives, Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac speak with Catherine McKenna, Canada’s former Minister of Environment and Climate Change, to discuss the mixed history, uncertain present and possible futures of the nation’s climate record. As Canada’s representative at the COP 21 negotiations in Paris, Catherine set the tone for the decade that has followed, during which time the country has increasingly engaged in international climate leadership. Back home, she also spearheaded an innovative carbon pricing system, which, though not always popular, attempted to shift the nation away from its fossil fuel dependency while delivering an economic net benefit for most Canadians. While former Bank of England and Bank of Canada Governor Mark Carney has become widely known as a climate progressive, his first act in office was to end this carbon tax, leading many to question how his climate ideals will fare in the face of political reality. Catherine reflects on why the tax was scrapped, and the lessons that must be learned if we are to defend climate action. Along with Paul Dickinson, Christiana and Tom consider the challenges facing former <a href="https://www.outrageandoptimism.org/episodes/banking-climate-mark-carney" target="_blank">Outrage + Optimism guest Carney</a> as he takes the helm of one of the G20’s highest emitters, and ask if we’re witnessing a wider backlash against corporate net zero commitments. Learn more 📚Read: U.S. Senator Sheldon Whitehouse’s <a href="https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/2025-03-11-Letter-to-DOJ-and-FBI-re-Greenhouse-Gas-Reduction-Fund.pdf" target="_blank">letter</a> seeking information about the Department of Justice and FBI investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency’s Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund and the reported freezing of grant money awarded from that fund. 🏭 Mark Carney’s statement on his <a href="https://markcarney.ca/media/2025/01/mark-carney-presents-plan-for-change-on-consumer-carbon-tax" target="_blank">decision to scrap the carbon tax </a> Follow us on social media for behind the scenes moments and to watch our videos: Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/outrageoptimism/?hl=en" target="_blank">@outrageoptimism</a> LinkedIn <a href="https://uk.linkedin.com/company/outrageoptimism" target="_blank">@outrageoptimism</a> Or get in touch with us <a href="https://www.globaloptimism.com/contact?hsLang=en" target="_blank">via this form</a>. Producer: Ben Weaver-HincksVideo Producer: Caitlin HanrahanExec Producer: Ellie CliffordCommissioning Editor: Sarah Thomas  This is a Persephonica production for Global Optimism and is part of the Acast Creator Network.<hr /> Hosted on Acast. See <a target="_blank" href="https://acast.com/privacy">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Canada's Climate Crossroads: Will Carney deliver real progress?