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Feeling lost in the chaos of the economy right now? Same. Between inflation, tariffs, and TikTok panic, it feels like we’re all one iced coffee away from a full-blown recession spiral.

In this episode of The Burnouts, Sophia Kianni and Phoebe Gates call in financial dominatrix Haley Sacks — aka @MrsDowJones — for a much-needed crash course in surviving your first economic downturn. We talk Roth IRAs, recession anxiety, index funds, investing FOMO, and why press-on nails might just be the ultimate economic indicator.

Whether you’re getting your first paycheck, trying to start investing, or just wondering WTF to do with your money, this episode is for you.

💸 It’s funny. It’s practical. And it might just change your financial future.

Recessions make millionaires: Money moves you NEED to know (ft. Mrs. Dow Jones)